Obama meets with An Average family

I think Barack Obama is learning and showing how he can connect with Average people out there. Were you aware that Obama meet with a family of 4 before a big rally?

http://www.startribune.com/politics/1982 2944.html?location_refer=Local%20+%20Met ro

KAUKAUNA, Wis. - Before Barack Obama spoke to more than a thousand people at a town hall rally, he met privately Thursday with a family of four a few miles away.

I hope he is able to meet others like this in every state.


The meeting is the first of its kind for Obama on this two-week campaign swing focusing on the economy. Similar private get-togethers are planned with families in other states, campaign spokeswoman Amy Brundage said.

This is how you get the working class vote by going to them and meeting with people living pay check to pay check.

The couple live paycheck to paycheck and struggle to make their mortgage payment, Obama's campaign said. They rarely leave Appleton to save money on gas, had a hard time paying their heating bill during the brutally cold winter, and are not eating as well because of high food prices. They also are not able to save for college for their children who are 12 and 10, the campaign said.

How many out there are facing similar problems? When I move I face going into a area like this. My friends that I am moving in with live paycheck to paycheck. She is always struggling with stress at the end of the month. I'm hoping to help her a little bit.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/12/obam a-v-mccain-tax-plans/

According to a non-partisan analysis of the presidential candidates' tax plans, Barack Obama "offers three times the break for middle class families" than proposals of John McCain, who "would steer the bulk of the benefits to the wealthiest families":

   Families making between $37,595 and $66,354 of annual income with Obama would get an average tax cut of $1,042 per family while McCain's tax cut for this group would be $319, the report states.

That is right Obama is better for the middle Class. He has a chance to reach these people. For once it isn't about the rich.

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/09/news/eco nomy/obama_economy_changetour/index.htm? cnn=yes


Obama has pledged to keep the tax cuts in place for everyone except those making roughly $250,000 and up. He has also made proposals to cut taxes further for the middle class, some of which he reiterated in his speech: exempt seniors making less than $50,000 from having to pay income tax; give a tax credit worth up to $500 per working person ($1,000 per family) to offset the Social Security tax on the first $8,100 of earnings; and expand the earned income tax credit.

http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/dinan 2008/Jun/12/tax-record-catches-mccain


Now comes a new analysis from the Tax Policy Center that compares McCain's current proposals versus Barack Obama's tax cut proposals. The verdict is McCain's tax cuts are skewed far more to high-income Americans than Obama, who would actually impose a tax increase on upper-income earners.

So I ask you who is better for the middle class Average working American living paycheck to paycheck?

Barack Obama remarks afterward

http://thepage.time.com/full-text-remarks-of-obama-in-kaukauna-wisconsin/
It’s time to end a philosophy in Washington that tells people like Ryan and Jenny that “you’re on your own,” because we’re all in this together as Americans. Most Americans aren’t asking for a lot. They don’t need overseas tax shelters or a long list of loopholes. They just want a fair shake. And they could stand a break. My tax cut is guided by the simple principle that what’s good for Main Street is good for our entire economy. That’s how we’ll get people the relief they need, while getting our economy back on the right track.


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Your life must suck (none / 0)


by Slim Tyranny on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:04:17 PM EST

Easy (2.00 / 3)

You have the time and the inclination to spread smears about a good man and candidate, knowing that you're being disingenuous.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:07:56 PM EST
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What a liar (2.00 / 2)

"I have nothing against BH Obama personally"

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

No one believes you, so go away.


by Slim Tyranny on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:12:58 PM EST
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[argh - don't engage trolls, slim!] (2.00 / 2)

Fuck it.

You're lying because you clearly DO have something personal against Obama.


by Slim Tyranny on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:20:02 PM EST
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yea, that, AND (2.00 / 1)

his middle name is "Hussein".

We get it, trust me.

Now, GO AWAY TROLL.


by Slim Tyranny on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:28:56 PM EST
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STFU, Troll (2.00 / 2)

You know exactly what you're doing.  This coy, faux-innocent bullshit is too obvious, work on your game.

Dropping the pointless "H" couldn't be more trolltastic (do you think we'd wonder if you meant some OTHER Democratic presidential nominee named "Obama"?).


by Slim Tyranny on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:32:36 PM EST
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Why don't you give an example (none / 0)

of why you think Obama will not keep us safe?  You don't even attempt to make a concrete argument, you just parrot Republican talking point conclusions.
Or why McCain, who wants us to stay in Iraq indefinitely and go to war with Iran, will keep us safe?
Or are you just going with your "gut," like foreign policy maven George Bush did?  That really helped our national security, didn't it?
by DaveG on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:47:14 PM EST
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If you think we should stay in Iraq (none / 0)

why did you support Hillary?

Surely you must be aware of the fact that her position on Iraq, that she will promptly draw down forces upon taking office, is essentially identical to Obama's.

So why are you safer under Hillary if the key factor for you is whether we stay in Iraq?

Not very well thought out.  Your troll colors have shown through quite clearly.


by DaveG on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:54:57 PM EST
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Re: Why don't you give an example (none / 0)

Wow a large majority of Americans has figured out that the emperor has no clothes. That Bush has made the USA and Israel less safe. Bush III aka McCain would actually be even worse then Bush. I think you have been watching to many Rambo movies. We are not prepared militarily or economically for the reality behind NcCains bluster. In the real world throwing Russia out of the G8 and igniting a new cold war while starting a war with Iran would be a disaster for America. Yes Bush has very nearly destroyed America McCain will surely finish the job.
by hankg on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 04:44:43 PM EST
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Re: Why don't you give an example (none / 0)

Wow, you sure pile the snark on thick.

It took me up until this comment to realize that you can't possibly seriously believe what you are saying.

Either that, or McCain's blog infiltration task force is really in over its head.


by Pragmatic Left on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 05:36:54 PM EST
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Re: Why don't you give an example (none / 0)

"As along as we are fighting them in Iraq and Afghanistan, the terrorists won't come here."

Really? The same way they didn't come to Spain when it was fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan? They same way they didn't come to the UK when it was fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Oh, wait, they did come to those countries while they were fighting in Iraq.

So what EXACTLY will prevent them to come again to yours again, same as they did in 2001 under the first Dubya term?


by Aris Katsaris on Fri Jun 13, 2008 at 01:33:47 PM EST
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Quick lesson (2.00 / 2)

If you want to seem like you're not a troll, try just using "Obama" or "Barack Obama" to refer to him.

It has become the province of right wingnuts to initialize part of his name (common ploy used by Anne Coulter: "B. Hussein Obama").  The inclusion of "H" in the initials is often a dead giveaway.

If you're pushing for McCain, then you're also barking up the wrong tree by being here.  We're a site dedicated to electing Democrats.  If you're trolling for Clinton sympathizers, you're also way off: most Clinton supporters here realize that McCain will be a disaster for every policy that Clinton fights for.  Further, she wasn't actually much more hawkish than Obama even at the height of her "Obliterate Iran" grandstanding.

If you want to be an effective troll, you need to be more subtle.  If you want to be a terrible troll, you're going to meet hidden comments and scorn such as mine for the remainder of your days on this site.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:28:17 PM EST
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Your facts are shoddy (2.00 / 1)

No, "BO" is not okay.  "BO" is the acronym for "body odor."  It's "Obama," "Senator Obama," "Barack Obama," or "Presient-Elect Barack Obama."

Obama never kicked Lieberman out.  Obama endorsed Lieberman over Lamont in the Democratic primary, and only very reluctantly endorsed Lamont when Lieberman ran as an independant.

If anyone betrayed anyone else here, it's Lieberman in spreading specious rumors and misstatements about Obama after Obama put his reputation at risk defending him in 2006.

Clinton and Obama have approximately equal qualifications for defending the country, and both of them have 100% better positions for dealing with foreign policy than "Bomb Iran" McCain.

If you're going to be saying that McCain is better, you're not going to find a receptive crowd here.  You'd best be quick about stating WHY he's better, or retreat to a more friendly locale, such as NoQuarter, HillaryIs44, The Free Republic, Little Green Footballs, or Lieberman's own Citizens for McCain.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 04:19:08 PM EST
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Re: Quick lesson (none / 0)

Obama was a supporter of Lieberman - a thing that aggravate the netroots, and which has proven to be a mistake on Obama's behalf.


by Aris Katsaris on Fri Jun 13, 2008 at 01:35:30 PM EST
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It's obvious from where I'm sitting (none / 0)


by Slim Tyranny on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:11:17 PM EST
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Hey (none / 0)

My good friend is from Appleton.  Good choice to find normal folks.

I'm surprised that the "big rally" was only a thousand, though.  He could fill Lambeau Field if he wanted to.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:04:41 PM EST

Re: Obama meets with a Average family (1.00 / 0)

LOL ... that was as funny as the title of the diary " OMG he meets with aliens " ( sounded like)


Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!
by aliveandkickin on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:07:34 PM EST

Re: Obama meets with a Average family (none / 0)

That is typical Republican talk. Every Republican I know goes on and on about wanting to be kept "safe".


by Becky G on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:17:35 PM EST

Re: Obama meets with a Average family (none / 0)

Hmm, how would Clinton have kept the country safe in a way that Obama would not? Neither are neo-cons like you. Both wanted to start pulling out of Iraq. Both want to take the fight to Afghanistan. So what makes you think Obama won't "keep the country safe?" Because I am quite CERTAIN that McCain will make America less safe. We are already less safe with our military bogged down in Iraq. If we start more reckless wars in the Middle East we'll have less military capacity to answer security challenges. Haven't you ever played Risk before? Don't spread your armies thin.


by elrod on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 06:31:25 PM EST
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OK, so this, girls and boys, is a Republican (none / 0)

Showed up today. Probably never a Clintonite, but, a Republican. Now I'm not sure the rules say that we should HR Republicans. Do they? If so it's going to get to be an echo chamber around here again.

So, Republican, what makes you think, since we've done virtually nothing under Bush to lessen our chances of terrorist attack, that we'd be more open to attack under Barack Obama?


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:26:01 PM EST

Not only a Republican (none / 0)

A LYING Republican.  Thus, the HRs.


by Slim Tyranny on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:33:14 PM EST
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There's a difference between a lie, and (none / 0)

a very mistaken or misinformed opinion. There are a lot of Republicans in the world. Are we going to label any one that shows up here a troll and refuse to converse with them? Just sayin'.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:58:07 PM EST
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Uh, perhaps you didn't know this but Hillary (2.00 / 1)

also said she would end the Iraq war, just as Obama said.  You supported Hillary.  Yet your reason for "believing" that Obama would not keep you safe is because he wants to do what your beloved Hillary wanted to do, end a catastrophically stupid military adventure in Iraq?
Very well thought out.  
by DaveG on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:52:14 PM EST
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Re: Uh, perhaps you didn't know this but Hillary (none / 0)

It is pointless to continue a dialogue with someone as ignorant as you are.

I just hope that the election is a referendum on whether or not we should stay in Iraq indefinitely until every last terrorist is killed, because that is an election which Obama cannot lose.


by DaveG on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 04:00:09 PM EST
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No. No. You don't understand. (2.00 / 1)

If you are supporting John McCain, first, you are no longer a Hillary Clinton supporter. You are her political enemy.

Second, you are a Republican. You may have been a Democrat all of your life, but when you go into the voting booth and pull the lever or fill in the oval or whatever you do in your location for John McCain, you ARE a Republican.

As for Bush being on the ballot, thank God no, but John McCain's policy on Iraq and George Bush's are no different. Stay there indefinitely until we "win" , though that is totally undefined.

As for "them" coming here. Who? Iraqis? They want us out? Al Quaeda? They weren't in Iraq when we got there and their based in Afghanistan/Pakistan and Obama wants to refocus resources to find them.

I understand that as a former Hillary supporter, now a Republican, you are hurt she didn't win, but you really do need to do some more research on the two remaining candidates. Personally, I'd be happy to help you find any information you need.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 03:54:52 PM EST
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Re: No. No. You don't understand. (none / 0)

Pssst. The terrorists aren't IN Iraq. Never were.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 04:14:24 PM EST
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Phew. Gitmo. (none / 0)

Who says the prisoners there, some for upwards of 6 years, are terrorists? What court? When were they tried?

The answer is, they weren't, and no one has ever had to charge them, or prove that they are any danger. If you believe that this is good, or American, then friend, you're a Republican.

I feel like Jeff Foxworthy. You might be a Republican if...


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 04:25:06 PM EST
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Eh. No. (none / 0)

And you aren't my buddy. You can put D or R or I or Z next to your name, but if you vote for John McCain, you're a Republican.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 04:33:45 PM EST
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OK. I gave you the benefit of the doubt, (none / 0)

but you've now convinced me you're just a troll.

Come back in November and we'll talk about landslides. I suspect you have it backwards. Go collect your McCain points.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 04:46:14 PM EST
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Re: Obama meets with An Average family (none / 0)

Ok C4Mc

Since your position is Obama won't keep us safe. Please explain your position.

As for the SCOTUS Ruling today. Habeas Corpus is one of the corner stone of US jurist prudence. We ignore it for anybody at the risk of our own freedoms and rights. I would venture to say that Hillary a an attorney would applaud today's ruling.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 04:33:14 PM EST

Don't worry about it (none / 0)

He/she/it is talking about a full Republican landslide this fall.

You can't argue with that.


In this avalanche, the pebbles get to vote.

That One/Another Fella '08

by Dracomicron on Thu Jun 12, 2008 at 05:47:36 PM EST
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